Spirits not attacking - Guild Wars Forums

aelesia · Jan 23, 2011, 03:34 PM // 15:34

I've noticed that sometimes some/all of my spirits just refuse to attack any target at all. I used to think that it was due to it being out of range, but it definitely isn't because:

a) I've seen them attack from a longer range before
b) I'm able to wand those foes from that distance
c) Sometimes the spirits behind or beside them will be attacking, but the others just don't.
d) They start attacking after awhile but the foe has not moved yet.

This occurs during Glint's Challenge. I'm using 3 Heroes, 3 Henchmen and one AFK player to get double the rewards.

Quaker · Jan 23, 2011, 04:27 PM // 16:27

I have noticed that on some occasions they seem to be targeting a foe that is out of their range and they don't fire until either that foe comes within range or dies - even though there are other targets in range.
Other times I have no idea why they don't attack. Moving them with Summon Spirits helps sometimes.
It's possible, of course, that the spirits are under the effects of something like Pacifism.

Dzjudz · Jan 23, 2011, 04:43 PM // 16:43

Try calling a target and/or wanding a target, that usually wakes them up.

Spirits can't be hexed Quaker, and Pacifism isn't around in Glint's Challenge.

Silvia Shadowback · Jan 23, 2011, 04:46 PM // 16:46

Not really a ritualist player, but is it possible that spirits are out of energy? I think I remember hearing this before.

aelesia · Jan 23, 2011, 04:53 PM // 16:53

Spirits NEVER pay attention when I call targets. They go on and hit whatever they feel like hitting. I was under the impression that you simply couldn't get them to follow called targets.

Wanding doesn't really wake them up. It does wake up my henchmen though.

AndroBubbles · Jan 23, 2011, 04:57 PM // 16:57

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Originally Posted by Silvia Shadowback

Not really a ritualist player, but is it possible that spirits are out of energy? I think I remember hearing this before.

A spirit attack is basically just an auto attack. It doesn't require energy to perform. Try using spirit siphon on an attacking spirit, you'll see what I mean.

gremlin · Jan 23, 2011, 05:16 PM // 17:16

There are locations that really mess up the spirit attacks I have a feeling many problems happen in Prophesies but that may be my imagination.

When I am in the shiverpeaks lornars pass was one place it happened a lot.

They wouldn't attack uphill in quite a few places, I figured it was a combination of Snow the hill and the game being coded before spirits and ritualists were created.
Moving them solved the problem but it was a bit hit and miss, they did attack when enemies closed to melee range.

Happens a lot on bridges too.

Nekodesu · Jan 23, 2011, 05:18 PM // 17:18

I have this issue aswell. It's really irritating. I have found that the best way is somewhat to make your spirits without range of enemies, move them close enough to attack and use Painful Bond before enemies reach into your buble.

Raven Wing · Jan 23, 2011, 06:22 PM // 18:22

I recommend Summon Spirits as Quaker mentioned. It resets their target AFAIK. Also try a wand attack. I have sometimes noticed them idling at the edge of range, but if I wand once or twice they attack willingly enough.

aelesia · Jan 23, 2011, 06:26 PM // 18:26

I'd love to use Summon Spirits, unfortunately I'm an E/A and the spirits are being controlled by my Heroes. I could swap to an E/Rt, but I think it'll only be harder this way.

Anyway I seem to have found a spot where the Spirits don't bug out and also offers more tactical advantages...so I guess my problem is kind of solved for now.

Dzjudz · Jan 23, 2011, 06:52 PM // 18:52

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Originally Posted by aelesia

Spirits NEVER pay attention when I call targets. They go on and hit whatever they feel like hitting. I was under the impression that you simply couldn't get them to follow called targets.

I never said they would follow your called target, I just said that would wake them up. At least that has been my experience with 1200 hours on my ritualist.

Anyway, I don't know if that would work with hero spirits.

Pinkest One · Jan 23, 2011, 08:35 PM // 20:35

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Originally Posted by aelesia

I'd love to use Summon Spirits, unfortunately I'm an E/A and the spirits are being controlled by my Heroes. I could swap to an E/Rt, but I think it'll only be harder this way.

Wouldnt matter if you did,Summon Spirits only works with spirits you summoned yourself.

On-topic: Yes ive noticed several times spirits being perfectly able to attack but(some or all)just stand there idle.
As mentioned,Painful bonding and or Summon does seem to wake them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by aelesia

Spirits NEVER pay attention when I call targets. They go on and hit whatever they feel like hitting. I was under the impression that you simply couldn't get them to follow called targets.

I seem to remember someone mentioning the addition of Shift key while calling a target made spirits swap to said target,they were testing in the Isle Of The Nameless. I havent tried myself but it undoubtedly would be nice.
Its been so long i cant find the post claiming this anymore.

Dzjudz · Jan 23, 2011, 08:41 PM // 20:41

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Originally Posted by Pinkest One

I seem to remember someone mentioning the addition of Shift key while calling a target made spirits swap to said target,they were testing in the Isle Of The Nameless. I havent tried myself but it undoubtedly would be nice.
Its been so long i cant find the post claiming this anymore.

Doesn't work.

gremlin · Jan 23, 2011, 08:44 PM // 20:44

I want to know why when you get the likes of Giant stomp and similar going off it interrupts my spirits.

They are floating in the air ok they seem bound in place by chains but still you would think that type of knock-down attack would do little.

**cosyfiep** · Jan 23, 2011, 08:58 PM // 20:58

yes I have noticed that sometimes the spirits just stand there idle....not sure what they have as a target---and moving them doesnt help...I usually just pop up a new spirit and it will start attacking ...seems to be the only way I have fixed this.

Anshuri · Jan 24, 2011, 02:39 AM // 02:39

I've had the same problem, and i found a solution by simply summoning them closer to the target i want them to attack, not much closer tho, maybe just take one step closer and then summon them less than a meter. For me that has solved it in most situations.

Silmar Alech · Jan 24, 2011, 11:33 AM // 11:33

If the spirits are downhill and have a target that is uphill, but they are too far away for the attack to reach their target, they are doing nothing. Teleporting them nearer to their targets usually work. It's not always the nearest target your spirits want to attack.

The spirits choose a target in longbow range that is attacked by yourself, or that is attacking yourself, or that attacks them. That target may be in longbow range but too far to reach, if it is uphill.

Quaker · Jan 24, 2011, 03:32 PM // 15:32

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Originally Posted by Dzjudz

Spirits can't be hexed Quaker, and Pacifism isn't around in Glint's Challenge.

I wasn't talking about Glint's Challenge in particular. The "spirits-won't-attack" thing happens everywhere. But, yes, they aren't affected by Hexes.

Btw, I have noticed that, if I'm (not a Rit) in a group with an SoS Rit, or an SoS Hero belonging to someone else, and I "ping" a target, there is a better chance that the spirits will switch to the target I pinged (provided I also attack the target).

Painbringer · Jan 24, 2011, 04:11 PM // 16:11

I have noticed if you place them close to walls edges etc.. they sometimes do nothing especially signet of spirits.

If you have plenty range arround your spirits... the spirits have long bow range but will not attack until targets get closer ~ unless you attack with a range item on them if that makes sense. example duncan if you lay spirits in longbow range they will not attack unless you attack with a longbow or something of range.

Jan 23, 2011, 03:34 PM // 15:34	#1
aelesia Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Nov 2010	Spirits not attacking I've noticed that sometimes some/all of my spirits just refuse to attack any target at all. I used to think that it was due to it being out of range, but it definitely isn't because: a) I've seen them attack from a longer range before b) I'm able to wand those foes from that distance c) Sometimes the spirits behind or beside them will be attacking, but the others just don't. d) They start attacking after awhile but the foe has not moved yet. This occurs during Glint's Challenge. I'm using 3 Heroes, 3 Henchmen and one AFK player to get double the rewards.

Jan 23, 2011, 08:58 PM // 20:58	#15
cosyfiep are we there yet? Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: in a land far far away Guild: guild? I am supposed to have a guild? Profession: Rt/	yes I have noticed that sometimes the spirits just stand there idle....not sure what they have as a target---and moving them doesnt help...I usually just pop up a new spirit and it will start attacking ...seems to be the only way I have fixed this. __________________ where is the 'all you can eat' cookie bar?

Jan 23, 2011, 04:27 PM // 16:27	#2
Quaker Hell's Protector Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Canada Guild: Brothers Disgruntled	I have noticed that on some occasions they seem to be targeting a foe that is out of their range and they don't fire until either that foe comes within range or dies - even though there are other targets in range. Other times I have no idea why they don't attack. Moving them with Summon Spirits helps sometimes. It's possible, of course, that the spirits are under the effects of something like Pacifism.

Jan 23, 2011, 04:43 PM // 16:43	#3
Dzjudz Furnace Stoker Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: gwpvx.com/user:dzjudz	Try calling a target and/or wanding a target, that usually wakes them up. Spirits can't be hexed Quaker, and Pacifism isn't around in Glint's Challenge.

Jan 23, 2011, 04:46 PM // 16:46	#4
Silvia Shadowback Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jan 2008 Guild: Sleeping at Worlds [End] Profession: N/Mo	Not really a ritualist player, but is it possible that spirits are out of energy? I think I remember hearing this before.

Jan 23, 2011, 04:53 PM // 16:53	#5
aelesia Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Nov 2010	Spirits NEVER pay attention when I call targets. They go on and hit whatever they feel like hitting. I was under the impression that you simply couldn't get them to follow called targets. Wanding doesn't really wake them up. It does wake up my henchmen though.

Jan 23, 2011, 05:16 PM // 17:16	#7
gremlin Furnace Stoker Join Date: Oct 2006 Guild: GWAR Profession: Me/Mo	There are locations that really mess up the spirit attacks I have a feeling many problems happen in Prophesies but that may be my imagination. When I am in the shiverpeaks lornars pass was one place it happened a lot. They wouldn't attack uphill in quite a few places, I figured it was a combination of Snow the hill and the game being coded before spirits and ritualists were created. Moving them solved the problem but it was a bit hit and miss, they did attack when enemies closed to melee range. Happens a lot on bridges too.

Jan 23, 2011, 05:18 PM // 17:18	#8
Nekodesu Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Oct 2009	I have this issue aswell. It's really irritating. I have found that the best way is somewhat to make your spirits without range of enemies, move them close enough to attack and use Painful Bond before enemies reach into your buble.

Jan 23, 2011, 06:22 PM // 18:22	#9
Raven Wing Jungle Guide Join Date: Nov 2005 Guild: The Imperial Guards of Istan [TIGI] Profession: N/	I recommend Summon Spirits as Quaker mentioned. It resets their target AFAIK. Also try a wand attack. I have sometimes noticed them idling at the edge of range, but if I wand once or twice they attack willingly enough.

Jan 23, 2011, 06:26 PM // 18:26	#10
aelesia Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Nov 2010	I'd love to use Summon Spirits, unfortunately I'm an E/A and the spirits are being controlled by my Heroes. I could swap to an E/Rt, but I think it'll only be harder this way. Anyway I seem to have found a spot where the Spirits don't bug out and also offers more tactical advantages...so I guess my problem is kind of solved for now.

Jan 23, 2011, 08:44 PM // 20:44	#14
gremlin Furnace Stoker Join Date: Oct 2006 Guild: GWAR Profession: Me/Mo	I want to know why when you get the likes of Giant stomp and similar going off it interrupts my spirits. They are floating in the air ok they seem bound in place by chains but still you would think that type of knock-down attack would do little.

Jan 24, 2011, 02:39 AM // 02:39	#16
Anshuri Academy Page Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Sweden Guild: Children Of Horrigan Profession: N/Me	I've had the same problem, and i found a solution by simply summoning them closer to the target i want them to attack, not much closer tho, maybe just take one step closer and then summon them less than a meter. For me that has solved it in most situations.

Jan 24, 2011, 11:33 AM // 11:33	#17
Silmar Alech Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Europe Guild: Tom Son [TS] Profession: E/	If the spirits are downhill and have a target that is uphill, but they are too far away for the attack to reach their target, they are doing nothing. Teleporting them nearer to their targets usually work. It's not always the nearest target your spirits want to attack. The spirits choose a target in longbow range that is attacked by yourself, or that is attacking yourself, or that attacks them. That target may be in longbow range but too far to reach, if it is uphill.

Jan 24, 2011, 04:11 PM // 16:11	#19
Painbringer Furnace Stoker Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Minnesota Guild: Black Widows of Death Profession: W/Mo	I have noticed if you place them close to walls edges etc.. they sometimes do nothing especially signet of spirits. If you have plenty range arround your spirits... the spirits have long bow range but will not attack until targets get closer ~ unless you attack with a range item on them if that makes sense. example duncan if you lay spirits in longbow range they will not attack unless you attack with a longbow or something of range.